Thursday, September 23, 2010

Three Things Thursday

I was on one of the running forums when I noticed a question asking if it was OK to split the long run. The consensus was that a long run is a long run and it should not be "messed with". I, on the other hand, had a contrary opinion. For many people, especially the elites, the long run is an essential and necessary tool in their arsenal. For others, especially us back of the packers, running over three hours is dangerous and potentially harmful. See this article here on where I was coming from.... Needless to say, my ideas were not well received. One Internet White Knight, who is brave beyond what is humanly possible, went so far as to impugn my knowledge because I was a five hour marathoner. I love egotistical bastards as much as the next person, but really, if the topic doesn't apply to you, move on. If we all do things the same way all the time, how will we know what works for us and what doesn't? I allowed myself to get angry, although I contained it well.

After looking at Mr. Arrogant's workout schedule, I was impressed. He ran pretty much every day. Sometimes, twice a day. He logged more mileage in three days (sometimes 2) then I did in a week. I used this information and channeled this anger into my interval workout last night during Matthew's soccer practice. The workout called for two 4 minute intervals at threshold/5K pace, then three 4 minute intervals at half marathon pace. I nailed every interval and was actually surprised at how easy the half marathon pace felt after hitting the 5K paces :-)

This workout marks my transition from heart rate based training to pace based training during the run. A lot of triathletes are already doing this on the bike by training with power. I suspect that heart rate training has been holding me back a bit, and I aim to find out if this is true, or not.

Wes


10 comments:

Stuart said...

It's funny because I would agree with you have had on occasion had to do Option A in the article

That's why I know I need to stay away from forums...too stressful!

Lisa said...

Maybe heart rate training is holding you back. Or maybe because of it, you were able to nail those paces. Chicken and egg thing perhaps.

Kim said...

my old team, QT2, used to have us split up long runs - i cant remember details, but no more than 4 hours in between the runs... i think. anyway, these are the folks that pull out the fastest IM run splits - cait snow in 2008 broke the run course record at Placid. so it seems to work!

Molly said...

Liz split one of my long runs during IM training - I had to run ~90 minute at night and another 45-60 (I don't remember) the next morning. It worked out OK and was probably a good way to get the mileage in without overdoing it. It also gave me some evening running practice, since that's what I'd be doing in IM.

teacherwoman said...

What an egotistical bastard. LOL. I just wanted to say that! :)

Jess said...

Yea I agree different things work for different people. I try to do my long runs all at once, but I don't think it's horrible to have to break them up every once in a while.

Jess said...

Certainly, there are arrogant know-it-alls in every sphere. I think the long run split up really depends on race goals. If a goal is simply to finish, then I see it as completely acceptable. if someone has a more specific goal, especially a time goal, I think splitting long runs is a mistake.

LBTEPA said...

there's nowhere like running/tri forums for rude people to take their inadequacies out on others! Maybe it was important to do the HR-based training first, so now you have a base for your pace-based workouts?

Richard said...

Don't sweat the jerk on the forums... Listen to your body. I happen to agree with you. Thanks for all of the encouragement this season. You are going to rock it in November!

Kevin said...

Some people are just really stuck in their ways, even when there is evidence to the contrary. I am starting to map out the next two years towards my next IM and am giving serious consideration to ditching the "Friel" Method and adopting the "endurance nation" method, or some hybrid of it. I have been impressed with their results and got a lot of good info out of a free trial